Racism Against Islam: Danish Cartoon
I just wanna remind all educated open-minded people of the major difference between what they call “freedom of expression” and “racism”. Freedom of expression should be exercised in a spirit of respect for religious and other beliefs and convictions. Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should all uphold. And yes, we consider it “Racism” against Islam, which is unacceptable in our civilized community.
One last message for all muslims, untill Denmark and Norway formally apologize, we should at least boycott their products, ’cause it seems that they don’t understand the language of mind or morals, they understand the green langauge of money.
The following are products to boycott from Denmark and Norway..
on 03 Mar 2006 at 8:03 am # JustKatharina
well i guess we have different opinions on this one..would LOVE to discuss that with somebody who isnt german..u know that the newspapers allready apologized right?the leader of denmark cant do that cause it wasnt his fault..its like when u say to a teacher he has to apologize for what his student wrote in an essay..it doesnt mean that the teacher has the same opinion but he cant apologize for it cause he didnt write it,right?hope u dont feel offended by what i wrote…
on 03 Mar 2006 at 8:43 am # Abed. Hamdan
Katharina: Thanks for your opinion, im open for different point of views
you’re right, we’ve completely different points of view.
let me explain my point of view, not all the newspapers apologized, and worse yet, the cartoons were published on other newspapers ! one might wonder why do we need an apology for “cartoons” ?!
It’s not about cartoons or denmark, it’s about respecting religions, morals, dignity and beleifs, if we just turned our back of what happened, then maybe one day we’ll see more humiliating cartoons,or maybe movies! religions shouldn’t be a material for fun, it’s a holy thing and must be respected regardless of everything. Put another way, imagine that some muslim newspapers published cartoons on jesus in response?! and then some jew newspapers come along ??
It might open doors for racism(it’s the last thing we need now!), and we might see some stupid outlaws limited-mined people from both sides do bombing or other terror attacks. And you know that after the so-called “War on terror” ; - unfortunately - hatered increased against US in specific and against anything western in general, which is not what’re willing to. One more thing about Islam, Muhammad (Peace & Blessing Being Upon him) is beleived to be the prophet of Allah and anything against him will hurt muslims everywhere. I hope u understand
on 03 Mar 2006 at 10:01 am # JustKatharina
yeah i can totally understand that but u have to try to see my point too..i mean yeah other newspapers pusblished those cartoons too but some of them where newspapers from the near eastern world and for me it looks like they only published it to heat up the hatred towards western countrys and that includes me. I hate war and u said religion shouldnt be a thing to make fun of..should it be a thing to make war for?!isnt it against Muhammad to blow up yourself and kill hundreds of others with it?!doesnt that hurt him?!well u said those cartoons hurt ur fellings..it hurts mine if i see inoccent people get blewn up..and i mean its not only the islamic world..i hate what bush did too..u see im kind of getting mad cause i noticed a change in myself which really bothers me..i start to be really carefull(that word doesnt seem right but i dont know a better one)arround muslims and i never had a problem with any religion..my opinion is that everybody should belief what they want..
i have the feeling that all of this destroys any possibility of living in peace together and respecting each other.didnt we learn something from history?!i mean it never went well if u fight a religion..i just hope that our generation trys to forget a little what the older generation messed up and meets halfway for a peacefull world cause isnt that what every religion wants?!
on 03 Mar 2006 at 10:41 am # Abed. Hamdan
Katharina: terrific! we’re speaking the same langauge, both of us are seeking peace and love, that what we’re trying to say. ALL MUSLIMS are against bombs and terror attacks, islam is totally against blowing one’s self to kill innocent people, so what i was trying to say is that those cartoons are doin nothing but increasing hatered against westerns and encouraging those “non educated” whom are claiming to be muslims to commit such terror attacks. so if the Danish government formally apologize it will cool down everything. Both “ture” muslims and extremes will be ok with that. One last point, we
(muslims) are all against bombing and terror, but except in the case of Palestine, it’s a special case, people of palestine have no weapons to defend them selves, the whole world is against them, and they have no other mean to protect them selves, my opinion is that they must use whatever possible way to protect their children (this condition is held only on the palestinian land !! it’s not acceptable outside palestine). And that what 90% of muslims think.
on 03 Mar 2006 at 10:46 am # Abed. Hamdan
Katharina: About being Careful with muslims, I can’t blame you and i ain’t surprized, ’cause you don’t know Islam and Muslims, you only know what propaganda wants you to know about Islam and Muslims. We Muslims are to blame ’cause we don’t do enough work in response to the damn propaganda. I wish you could get to know about the true Islam.
on 03 Mar 2006 at 5:09 pm # JustKatharina
well im just coming home so im only responding to ur last entry..well i dont know the islam is what u think..but 25%of my town are muslims..i go to school with girls who wear(whats the english word for it?im just gonna describe it)a scarf to cover their hair and i know very well that noone in my town is a posiible terrorist but still i have that feeling..and u cant only blame the western countries for it..its not only their “propaganda”(a word i hate naturally cause im german)that makes me feel weird arround muslims now..it also comes from near east countries were people burn my flag(and we never ever printed any of those cartoons)which im proud of and which is a sign for my freedom and burn down consulates too..well i guess we have to try to meet halfway somehow..i really enjoy discussing this with u i hope im not annoying u..gonna write tomorrow more..tired now its like two in the morning:)
on 03 Mar 2006 at 5:10 pm # JustKatharina
ps: if u wish i could get to know the true islam why dont u just try to teach me :)?
on 03 Mar 2006 at 6:05 pm # Abed. Hamdan
Thanks, i enjoy this discussion too
Well, We call that scarf “Hijab”, it’s an arabic word, you can call it scarf in English. Propaganda!~ok, u see those people on TV, im not accusing the western propaganda in specific,but let’s not forget that Islam is the main target of Israeli’s(masters of propaganda) and Germany still suffering from the Israeli propaganda due to Hitler’s holocaust thingy.Im not obssesed of the conspiracy theory, but think about it, it might make some sense. I’m against burning any flag under any condition. and so are most of the people here. Islam doesn’t urgue anyone to burn or humiliate the pride of any nation. you see people burning flags, who are these people ?? most of them are simple people from the street, they are angry, and they do whatever “they” see right, you ur self have just said that German flag was burnt for nothing! so actually they are either idiots or moved by outsiders that are trying to give bad view of the islamic street and still it has nothing to do with Islam as a religion.You can’t judge a religion by judging people of that religion. And trust me, those people whom u see on TV are nothing but a very small portion of the 1 Billion muslims arround the world. I told you, we muslisms are to blame for not giving the true picture of islam, our countries still bleeding, and we our selves are the most countries affected by bombs and terrorists, i think you’ve heared of Bombs in Jordan,KSA,Morroco,and many other places.Hmm,I must admit it, muslims of the 20th century(including me) ain’t that true muslims, we’ve been through war and under occupation since the Othommani Empire which claimed islam, then the English/French imperialism, and now our countries are called “3rd world”. And you know how easy is to make a mess in the street when there are many unemployed and poor people, im not giving execuses,im just trying to give you the true picture. I’d be honored to introduce u to islam, eventhough my English ain’t that good, but i’ll try :s Basically, we beleive that there’s no god but Allah(The one and the absolute), and Muhammad is the last messenger and prophet of Allah. We beleive in all the previous prophets before Muahamad, and Muhammad just came to copy, complete, and finalize the Messages of Allah. We beleive in Jesus(PBUH)(we call him Eissa) as the prophet(not god or son of god) before muahhamd. Islam has five basic rituals: Praying 5 times a day,paying alms for poor people, fasting one month a year(called Ramadan), and pilgrimage once in a life time if you can.
It has nothing to do with violence, we have to fight (called Jihad) only to defend our selves or in response, we’re not only prohibited from attacking innocent people, but we’re also not allowed to attack animas,trees,and even buildings.That is,any kind of distruction is not acceptible whatsoever. Dunno what to say :s you can ask me whatever:) you’ve just came home, hows is Anna ? lol
on 04 Mar 2006 at 8:47 am # JustKatharina
hm it looks like both sides arent doing their best to calm the situation down..and some idiots ont both sides just let their anger out.i wish i could do something about it..see we still have different opinions but i understand u and im really sorry that u feel offended by those cartoons(which i think are horrible too)..and even though we dont agree on everything we want the same thing:peace..and we are able to talk which i think is soooo important..well u said the muslims who bomb and attack are only a small portion of the islamic world..see i have a problem with that..hitlers party was small too..and in the start there werent many people behind him..but with the bad economy and the frustration he could sell the jews as the reason for it..why wouldnt it be possible that an islamic leader would do the same?!Use the frustration and who is the cause of it?!the western world..thats what i am scared of…
on 04 Mar 2006 at 8:48 am # JustKatharina
ps: ur english is great dont be stupid:)
pps:how anna is?hmm im not quiet sure what i will do with that:) i called her today and i might go out partying with her next weekend..but still have some trouble dealing with that:)
on 04 Mar 2006 at 9:19 am # Abed. Hamdan
we both are seeking peace and nothing but peace. about your fears, they might be true to a certain level.That is, a leader might come and use the frustration and depression, that leader could be Arabian, Persian, Asian, or muslim, but on no condition this leader can lead people under the name of Islam. Islam is a religion, and unlike most of the religions(you might be surprized), islam is very clear, i mean truly clear, nothing is vague about islam, it’s not only principles, it’s a complete way of life that’s well specified and defined. As I said,this guy might be muslim, but can’t lead people under the Islamic flag( Saddam Husein lead people under the Arabian flag, which has nothing 2 do with islam). So what should we do about our fears ?? we arab our selves are afraid of Iran and its Nuclear intentions more than foreign countries, but what should we do ? should we increase hatered and depression ? or should we open doors for discussions and opinions from both sides. War is what we need to stop not to encourage, we Arab countries are the last people in the world who wants wars, we got enough of that. Palestine is our major issue, and is the main cause of all our problems, and beleive it or not, it’s the main motivation for most of the terorr attacks worldwide, cause palestine is considered holy Islamic land, and Israeli’s have the world behind them. We need just to open discussions, and to give the world the true picture, not the picture drawn by controlled propaganda. Fighting Arab countries, and the unfair support of Israeli will lead to new terror attacks inside and outside the islamic world, we need to be fair with palestine’s issue, iraq, afghanistan, and all other cases. Even Bin ladin him self offered USA a long-term truce. we must fix what’s been distructed for years. Years of wars and imperialism caused that unnecessary hatered, which can be stopped by our efforts. hope we have a new beginning.It’s the only way to stop terror. Fighting terrorists and attacking more countries will lead to nothing but more terror attacks.
We must make it our case to stop terror and to spread peace:)
on 04 Mar 2006 at 11:28 am # Abed. Hamdan
Katharina: hey i’ve just came back from GYM and new idea just hit me. listen, i have i suggestion, how about making a blog for such a discussion. I’ll invite some of my friends from the islamic world, and you invite some of your friends from Germany and europe, and then we can talk about our different case and fears, we can talk about the differences between our cultures and learn more about each others.?? tell me what you think plz
oh damn, i have to study right now :s got too many tasks to do :s
on 05 Mar 2006 at 1:29 am # JustKatharina
hey that sounds like a really good idea..at least i wont spam ur blog with comments;)no serious we should do it..one step in the right direction i think..lets do it!!!!and have fun studying;)
on 05 Mar 2006 at 11:58 am # Abed. Hamdan
Katharina: Alright, so let it be. I hope we make difference
I registered a blog http://peaceroot.blogspot.com
to make it our root to spread peace and love.
I need your email to add you to the bloggers list so you can publish your posts there. you can send your email address to my email : hamdan_abed@ieee.org
i will talk to some of my friends to add them so they can blog with us. if you want to add anyone to blog with us just send me his/her email to add him/her as a member with us. Wish you best of luck
on 31 May 2008 at 3:05 am # j.delarue
no, those cartoons were not racist. it was a matter of expressing an opinion. the word racism has turned into the most devalued word- people like you just apply it to anything and than expect to have the moral highground with it. but i think the word racism should not be in the itinery of Islam- if you want to see racism, look to Sudan, look at how muslums treat Jews. what makes me so angry is that you never see in the news what it really is like with muslums in the west, the news writers are always too scared of appearing ‘racist’. an example of what life is really like, In MY own country, a muslum woman told me i wasn’t allowed to sit next to her on the bus, when it was the only seat left. i actually saw morrocan teenagers spray paint a nazi sign on my neighbour’s car, and i don’t think it was incidental that he is a jew. i CAN’T walk in certain parts of MY own city, because of fear of being attacked for being white, my friends gf was raped by muslum, in the west there is a complete aparteid, and it is not caused by the white side. these are just a few examples, and any person without a biased view who actually lives in the spots where islam and the west meet, you can feel the hostility from the muslums. you say it’s only a small minority who are anti western, and all that. if you live in reality, you’ll see it’s the opposite.
on 31 May 2008 at 3:09 am # j.delarue
also, i just read that ‘arab countries are the last who want to start wars’. i can’t really believe that when about 90% of conflicts in the world at the moment involve islamic countrys, or are between islamic countries.
on 01 Jun 2008 at 9:26 am # Abed Hamdan
j.delarue:
yeah most of the wars are in the middle east and in any place with oil or any valuable thing. It’s the white man interest to rob whatever he can by force. Not everybody of course, it’s a governments thing.
Regarding the cartoons, we’ve had enough disucssion already. My point is, if you want good relation and respect from Muslims (or anybody else), then you have to learn to respect their values and sacred symbols. Not everything is a porn joke, and if you fail to absorb this, then you will fail to maintain good relations with many people with different cultures.