This is a 3 minutes video, made by Americans, to tell other Americans what they should know.
This is their official website:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
This is a 3 minutes video, made by Americans, to tell other Americans what they should know.
This is their official website:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
on 29 Jul 2006 at 3:21 pm # Abed. Hamdan
Los Angeles:
I know that this is got highlighted at your propaganda, but this is not the situation. ALL Arab countries declared the rejection of 9/11 attacks, and sympathy with the United States. I know you saw some poeple in Palestine celebrating, im not giving execuses, but you should put urself in their position. They are suffering since 50 yrs, and all those recent Massacres & genodices took place under the supervision of the government of the United States, with American weapons, with complete unfair bias of the American government, again im not giving execuses, im just telling why they did that. Im against violence and terror, but sadly you’re government is supporting the Israeli crimes.
Before we get stuck into a blame circle, let’s just take a deep breathe and try to find a wise way to have peace. Through wars, we can’t acheive it, I hope Condoleeza Rice understand this.
AhmadiNejad is a politician, he doesn’t represnt Islam whatsoever,he wants political acheivements, which have nothing to do with Islam.
Terrorists are not just Muslims as you see on TV, they are everywhere, from all races. We suffered from the Israeli crimes for decades. Our problem is not with Jews, We’re beleivers, and Judaism is a religion we do respect.
Muslims/Jews/Christians have been living for centuries together in the Arab world, and now in the west, you can’t say that Muslims can’t live in peace with other, just because Bush said that they did 9/11, and declared what he called “crossaidian war”. Remember who gave weapons to Al-Qaeda at the first place, to fight the Soviet-Union, I wonder why they were not terrorists when they fought the Soviet-Union.
Trust me my brother, It’s not about Islam or Muslims, It’s all a political game, we (civilianz) has nothing to do with it, but we should at least understand the truth, and we also shouldn’t lose hope of peace, It’s possible, trust me it is.
on 29 Jul 2006 at 3:40 pm # Robin
Ahelen Maritain,
Check this out
http://www.fcnl.org/index.htm
This is the site of Friend’s Committee on National Legislation (the Quakers, the oldest and largest peace organization here in the States. HUGE lobbyists in DC Navigate to find their letters to Congress concerning the current situation and what they say about the vast majority of Muslims in the Middle East. Tip: it was the Quakers who were almost totally responsible for the abolition of slavery here in the US, they are VERY respected here)
Masalama,
Robin
Robin
on 29 Jul 2006 at 4:54 pm # Los Angeles
Abed.Hamden
You say terrorists are all races and all religions. What other religion besides Islam?
I’m really curious.
No other religion beheads, straps on bombs and blows up people in clubs.
Tell us.
Your sister in Los Angeles, California
on 29 Jul 2006 at 8:20 pm # chet
Los Angeles, you asked: terrorists are all races and all religions. What other religion besides Islam?
Lets look at the Oklahoma City bombing. Tim McVeigh was a christian. Look at the kkk, some were supposedly preachers terroizing blacks. There are many more if you would do some research. Terrorist is one who puts fear in people and trys to change there life style. You could include street gangs in that catagory to. Such as the bloods and crypts.
on 29 Jul 2006 at 11:40 pm # I love Munich
Chet - RIGHT ON TARGET - way to go!!! You’re great!
on 30 Jul 2006 at 7:13 am # fran en stein
Chet,
You are wrong Tim Mcvey was not a Christian. Tim Mcvey did not kill in the name of his God like the fanatical islamist do.
on 30 Jul 2006 at 7:17 am # Los Angeles
Chet
You have got to be kidding! There is no question that people who commit crimes are different religions than Muslims.
But Timothy McVeigh did not bomb the building for the sake of religion … he did not bomb it for God or any Christian entity. His anger did not involve religion of any sort.
Bloods and Crips (which are mostly here in Los Angeles) are young black men. They are criminal elements who are protecting their territory … they do not invoke God or Christianity. They do not scream “Allah Akbar” before they machine gun down an opponent!
The KKK hated blacks. Thankfully they are gone but they were not killing blacks because they were infidels.
I, as a Roman Catholic woman, am an infidel. I would be a target for a so-called “Islamist” in Iraq for example BECAUSE I am an infidel … not a Muslim.
Would you agree?
on 30 Jul 2006 at 11:21 am # chet
Los Angeles, No I don’t agree. Terror is terror no matter what reason you want to use. Mcveigh grew up in the christian religion, same with many gang members. Just because they didn’t do it in the name of God, has nothing to do with it. Why are you afraid. There are many Christians that live in Iraq and through out the Middle East. They get along fine with others. Are you prjudice? Besides this war going on is not about religion, it is all political.
on 30 Jul 2006 at 12:27 pm # Los Angeles
Chet,
You are wrong. But, regardless, tell me your definition of “infidel” from the standpoint of a Muslim?
Why do many Muslim clerics say that suicide bombings are okay since it is jihad?
And are you a Muslim?
Thanks.
on 30 Jul 2006 at 1:11 pm # !!!
loved the picturs from Palestine thanks alot
on 30 Jul 2006 at 1:28 pm # Abed. Hamdan
Dear Robin,
I can’t thank you enough for providing those links, this is so kind of you ! Im really grateful.
I have exams right now, when I finish I will look at them thoroughly, It’s good to work hand by hand with Americans who call for peace
Thanks again.
P.S: I like your Arabic accent
on 30 Jul 2006 at 1:47 pm # Abed. Hamdan
Los Angeles:
Dear Sister,
I want to give a look from another perspective. In Islam, no humanbeing can decide whether the dead is martyr or not, Only God can decide this.
And Those Al-Qaeda terrorists were considered as fighters for freedom when they fought the Soviet-Union in 1980s. And that time, Muslims were not the terrorists, but rather, any communitist was considered an extremely dangerous terrorist. After the collapse of the Red Army, then politicians decided that they should have new enemy, inorder to sell the weapons they have, having more political acheivements, ..etc.
Those extreminists who defeated the Soviet-Union with American Weapons have become the new virtual enemy.
Terrorists are everywhere, but the media now highlight Muslims as terrorists, just to justify war on Iraq, Afghanistan, palestine, lebanon, …etc. You know what, maybe 10 yrs from now, we might see all terrorists become Chinese or French!
wake up people, It’s a political game, and If you see people who kill innocent people in streets and then claim that this was for god, then you should know that these are just banners. Fake banners to attract youths from the Arab world, utilizing the fact that everybody is angry due to the American government unfair bias in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict, so they can recruit more fighters to work on their plans.
You’ve seen how the Russians were the terrorists, they were not Muslims thought. Wanna see more non-Muslim terrorists ?? How about the Israeli crimes ??
Haven’t you heared about the Marine who raped a 9 yr old Iraqi girl and then burt her family ?? He wasn’t Muslim.
and Haven’t you heared about the Latest Marines Massacre in Iraq ?? Yes, they were accuses and charged by the American law for commiting such Massacre, and It’s prooved by the American law.
Im not saying that all American soldiers are terrorists, not at all, but what Im trying to say is, don’t be mislead by the conrolled media, we’re all human being, and moreoever, we both beleive in god, and Islam is just another relgion that calls for peace and love, don’t be fooled by what you see on TV.
see, Im a Muslim, but Im dedicating my life to science and research purposes, and this is considered Jihad! Yeah, I know that you people don’t know what the meaning of Jihad is. It’s anything you do for god and humanity. The meaning of the word is very wide, and beyond the scope of our discussion. Don’t listen to Bush or Rumsfield when they explain it, they’re not Muslims, and they’re not Islamic preachers!
If you have any question about Islam or anything that I can help, just write it here, and I will do my best to answer…
thanks for you patience
on 30 Jul 2006 at 1:50 pm # Abed. Hamdan
Chet: Thanks my brother, I totally agree with you, bless you sir
!!!!: Glad you liked them, welcome
on 30 Jul 2006 at 2:05 pm # Los Angeles
Abed.Hamden
Ah, thanks … but not much was answered.
Why do the terrorists in the Middle East invoke Allah? They do their disgusting deeds in the name of their relgiion Islam.
They have no problem walking into a pizza parlour filled with civilians and shouting Allah Akbar. What am I missing? These people KILL in the name of GOD!
And you never touched on the word “infidel”. I am a Roman Catholic woman in Los Angeles. Am I not an infidel … like those condemned by those Islamists who are beheading people?
And finally, are you not angry that Islam has been perverted by terrorists? That Islam has been taken over by extremists?
Thanks.
on 30 Jul 2006 at 8:42 pm # Abed. Hamdan
Los Angeles:
Maybe my answer wasn’t that apt, i will try to re-order it now , and answer your question
Why do the terrorists in the Middle East invoke Allah?
These are just banners, sothat they can attract more fighters, given the fact that everybody is depressed in the Arab world due to the Israeli actions in Palestine. Walking in Pizza parlor and killing everybody there has nothing to do with Allah. Those guys have their own goals, and they just use Islam as banner & cover.
And you never touched on the word “infidel”. I am a Roman Catholic woman in Los Angeles. Am I not an infidel … like those condemned by those Islamists who are beheading people?
We beleive that nobody has the right to call the anyone “infidel”. Only Allah (god) has that right! Extreminists (not only Muslims) mis-use this word, but In Islam, It’s not humans who decide this, Allah do decide this in the judgement day!
And finally, are you not angry that Islam has been perverted by terrorists? That Islam has been taken over by extremists?
Islam has not been perverted or taken over. It’s only the name of Islam is being used as banner for terorr actions. Every Muslims can differantiate between what’s Islamic and what’s not Islamic. Blame your media, they want to mislead you to their political goals. Islam is a religion.
on 30 Jul 2006 at 9:34 pm # Los Angeles
Abed.Hamdan
You talk about “banners” a lot and “media” but …
Do you renounce those who kill innocents in suicide bombings?
Do you see honor in those who kill themselves in walking into civilian sites and blowing themselves up?
Do you respect people who do this?
Your answers will tell me a lot about the “average” Muslim. I wonder if you really want me to know.
on 30 Jul 2006 at 11:47 pm # Anonymous
I greatly wonder how many people in this discussion and in the wide world are right … and yet are contradicting each other with every word they say!
Is not just this the beginning of WAR?
on 31 Jul 2006 at 6:27 am # chet
Los Angeles
No I am not Muslim. I am a Luthern (Missouri Synod.)
on 31 Jul 2006 at 8:29 am # Ohoud
Amazing Abed! I’ll put it on my site
on 31 Jul 2006 at 10:47 pm # Abed. Hamdan
Los Angeles:
Why do you think Im hiding something or im not answering ??? didn’t I answer all ur question ?? or we sometimes find it hard to listen to the other ??
So you want to know about the average Muslim ?? ok.
Do you renounce those who kill innocents in suicide bombings?
Yes we renounce suicide bombers, but there’s one exception. Suicide bombing is allowed only in Palestine and AGAINST soldiers, since it’s the only way one can protect her/his children against the Israeli soldiers. Put yourself in their position, when there are Israeli soldiers trying to kidnap your 9-yrs old sister or daughter ?? This is the only justified case, else is not accepted whatsoever. We In Jordan suffered from suicidal bombs.
Do you see honor in those who kill themselves in walking into civilian sites and blowing themselves up?
No, killing civilians is not acceptable.
Do you respect people who do this?
Again, No.
and finally, I hope you got the idea that It’s not only Muslims who are terrorists.
on 31 Jul 2006 at 10:48 pm # Abed. Hamdan
anonymoys: this is sad but true, and our duty is to stop this, and open doors for discussion, thanks for pointing this out
Ohoud: thanks my sister
on 01 Aug 2006 at 11:39 pm # Erick
It took Germany and France two world wars and millions and millions of deaths before they quenched their thirst for blood.
The Middle East has a long, long way to go.
To stop it, one of two things have to happen:
1.) Enough Muslims are killed that they accept whatever border Israel draws for itself.
2.) Enough Jews are killed that Israel accepts that there cannot be an Israel and every Israeli immigrates to elsewhere
Unless the middle east stops being the middle east, I do not think 2 will ever happen. If I lived in Jordan, I would concentrate on making number 1 as few muslims as possible.
on 03 Aug 2006 at 8:29 pm # Robin
Hi Abed,
Hope your finals went ok (if they’re over, hope they are) I thought of you when I found this,
htt://www.palestineonlinestore.com/index.html
They take international orders too so maybe some of your friends around the world might like it.
Masalama,
Robin
on 05 Aug 2006 at 6:17 am # David Garrett
Hi Abed,
I want to say that I think I speak for most Americans when I say that we hate what our government is doing. This Bush Administration has gone power-hungry. Bush, himself, has sidestepped the constitution, congress, the supreme court so many times… he is out of control. And no one seems to be doing anything to stop him. They just talk and talk and talk. He, along with this whole administration, should be jailed as war criminals.
on 06 Aug 2006 at 8:17 am # Abed. Hamdan
Erick: I agree that both sides should give up some of their claims..
but again, I has nothing to do Muslims. Islam is a religion, God’s religion, and It has nothing to do with terror as your media told you. Be sure of this dude.
Robin: Thanks my friend, can’t thank you enough, and sorry for my late replies, I really had some bloody exams
David Garrett: Thank you my brother. I hope that all Americans understand this, and realize that their government is not working for their own good, and the stupid government is responsible for the mess inside & outside the states. Thank you