The world is going crazy these days, angry protests here and there, and .. hmm, I don’t know what to say. This is not good for anybody, here I mean the conflict about Islam and pope speech.
Some might argue that this anger will take some time and then everybody will forget what happened and things will cool again. I beleive this is way too dangerous. We still remember when Bush declared a “crusader war” , and then he aplogized and said it was a “slip of the tongue”. Then, the Danish cartoons, the facism, and lately what pope said.
Do you know why do I think that this is a very dangerous ?? because, It’s not only provoke for counter-terror attacks, but also it justifies what terrorists do, and beleive me this is the most dangerous thing. There’s a non-questionable denial of all forms of terror attacks across the Arab/Muslim world, specially between the educated people but, however, after we hear such irresponsible statements like “crusader war” or “facism” or whatevever it becomes highly likely that some educated will at least sympathize with terrorists. For example, when we hear terms like “crusader war”, we immediately hear and see some Al-Qaeda people on TV justifying their attacks by “stopping the crusader war”, and this happened before, and still happening.
In response to Pope’s late speech, Al-Qaeda promised to continue its attacks against the west in response to the disrespect of Islam and Muslims, and this is sick. In the last two weeks, we witness the murder of some British tourists in Jordan, and we’re getting enough of this really.
Now the question is, what’s the end of this madness ?? where are we going ??
on 19 Sep 2006 at 5:12 am # blackr0se
Hi Abed ,very interressant dear friend ,we are sick of all of this ,we are sick from seeing innocent people killed everywhere ,in both case from qa3ida murders ,or from other terrorists (israel and american) power and possession haunted their hearts and they are nt thinking abt anything else ,and now came the pope speech the make it worse ,the world looks like hot water on fire,everything is burning ,really we are sick ..
bel 3arabe hek 7ello 3anna badna na3ref n3ish ,3anjad y7ello 3anna kelhom ba2a shi bi2arref ..
on 19 Sep 2006 at 5:17 am # Lilly
hi there! thanks for checking my blog, this is sick, am really irritated of whats going on? WHATS NEXT?
on 19 Sep 2006 at 1:31 pm # Dotm
If only people would think twice before they open their mouth or before they act.Way too many innoscent people getting hurt or killed . Such a sad thing to be happening all over the world.War is never the answer to anything, it just causes more uprisings. I know it is important to protect ones country, but if people all over the world can get along in blogs, why can`t every country do the same ?
on 19 Sep 2006 at 2:43 pm # Abed. Hamdan
Black r0se: we’re really sick of this !
Lilly: welcome here! I really don’t know what next, but I know it won’t be any good!
Dot: lol, you want a blog for each country ?? that’s interesting!! I really don’t know where blogs are going to .. but why not
on 20 Sep 2006 at 4:18 am # vagueraz
its a crusader war ,,, and its clear …. ana msh 3arfeh la mata 7andalna nt7ammal w ma ne3mal shy !!!
on 20 Sep 2006 at 1:00 pm # !!!
Abed
i don’t thikn that the problem is the reaction of the terrorists because they dont need any excuses to do what they do most of the time, but the real problem is in the spiritual and human separation betwaeen human beings in the west and east so even if we say that its an incident and it will go by time we all know deep inside that there is a huge gape getting bigger and bigger between us and them and sorry for using this language, and here im not only talking about the pope speech only.
when the cartoons story occured we said that it could be an individual(s) incident and directed from certain groups but i really wonder what was in the pope head when he said these words-all respect for him- i mean as a role model for millions he should have given it more thinking but we should forgive or let say we are used to it, maybe oneday our pure religion will be free from all these games.inshala!
on 20 Sep 2006 at 1:17 pm # !!!
Abed
i don’t thikn that the problem is the reaction of the terrorists because they dont need any excuses to do what they do most of the time, but the real problem is in the spiritual and human separation betwaeen human beings in the west and east so even if we say that its an incident and it will go by time we all know deep inside that there is a huge gape getting bigger and bigger between us and them and sorry for using this language, and here im not only talking about the pope speech only.
when the cartoons story occured we said that it could be an individual(s) incident and directed from certain groups but i really wonder what was in the pope head when he said these words-all respect for him- i mean as a role model for millions he should have given it more thinking but we should forgive or let say we are used to it, maybe oneday our pure religion will be free from all these games.inshala!
on 20 Sep 2006 at 10:35 pm # The Observer
Well said Abed.
Qazzafi’s son is asking the Pope to convert to Islam now! He says that an apology isn’t enough!!
This is dangerous! This can be like a snow ball! Religious leaders on both sides ought to act smartly in order to prevent us of reaching a worse level of conflict.
on 21 Sep 2006 at 1:54 am # blackr0se
Abboude you have been tagged by me
tfaddal answer the 10 questions ASAP :)i cant wait to read ur reply
be fine my friend
on 21 Sep 2006 at 3:23 am # naturalblu
hey just saw the pix in ur flicker u took those pix?
on 21 Sep 2006 at 3:35 am # Abed. Hamdan
VageuRaz: i don’t think so, i think it’s a diry political game, let’s wish it stop
!!!: what I wanted to say is that these actions provoke for more terror attacks, and worse yet justifies them. Yes, our religion and Muslims are being attacked everywhere, and this is sick.
The Observer: I don’t think these are a result of stupidity of slip of tongues, this is a dirty game, I beleive.
on 21 Sep 2006 at 3:37 am # Abed. Hamdan
Black r0se: thank you so much !
but I’ve already answered this tag
my answeres are here, scroll down : http://abedhamdan.blogspot.com/2006/09/super-tag.html
NaturalBlu: If you refere to Palestine pictures, then I didn’t take those, My best friend Amjad did
so did you like them?
on 21 Sep 2006 at 9:40 am # I love Munich
You’re right Abed - “where are we going?” is probably THE 1 million dollar question as it is not to predict! I fear though that where we are right now - as BAD as it is - it only the tip of the ice-berg and it will get worse! I wish so much I would not have to say that but people are not “ready” for peace, for a closed gap, for sharing, for a life without greed, selfishness, hatred … all that requires a certain kind of maturity as well as readiness to give and share - and all that I can’t see anywhere! The people probably are more ready to go along - but most governments are a MAJOR millstone preventing to accomplish that!
As long as occupation and oppression finds even ONE person to considers it legal and nothing wrong with - we’re still FAR off! It is my biggest wish to be allowed to help building this NEW society .. you know what I mean - but this is still YEARS away!
And about islam - well, I can’t help thinking that Muslims MUST take initiative foirst locally and then. like a wildfire EVERYWHERE to make NON-Muslims understand, what they heard about this great religion - is WRONG! On top - it would cut considerably the power of these so-called “evangelists” and other war-mongers and violence-preachers and consequently influence as well Presidents! (see Pat Robinson and Bush!)
I just wrote a post about that - have a look if you feel like …
on 21 Sep 2006 at 9:24 pm # nisa
Salam,
i guess for any anti-muhammad speech, forgiveness should be seeked from Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) himself. thinking of it, it’s not me they should ask forgiveness. it’s Muhammad’s they should ask. so, u know. in a way i’m actually a nobody in this. :T
anyway as for me, i love Muhammad. i should do what muslims should do, as guided by the Quran. people can say, but it’s their say. i live by Allah’s terms, not theirs. so life goes on. muslims should serve Allah & serve people.
somehow i see being prejudiced at can be good. because it will be stupid to be riya’. you know, if i think i’m great doing this as a muslim, hoping ppl would look at me good. but really, in this time — some antis might even associate me with fundamentalist stuffs, just because i speak too much Allahu Akbar. i wear the scarf already, i’m maybe like an extremist. so you know. maybe it could be good to test our sincerity in doing things.
anyway, muslims live for Allah. serve God, serve people, then die. it’s the simplest term, i understand, you understand, everybody understand.
all & all from Allah we come, to Allah we return.
on 22 Sep 2006 at 3:43 am # Abed. Hamdan
I Love Munich: I totally agree with you, Im expecting the worst! and yes, people are never ready, rather the hatered is increasing !
One person finds the occupation, we have whole nations supporting occupations!
now talking about Islam is considered a crime and could lead to prison ! specially in Islamic countries !!!
I’ll read ur post of course, and i regular there
on 22 Sep 2006 at 3:46 am # Abed. Hamdan
nisa: lol, you’re extrimitist ? I know what you’re talking! yeah, the Islam is all about worshiping Allah, and people should know this! It’s just a religion
on 22 Sep 2006 at 6:09 am # Tristan Vick
I don’t know about anybone else,
but if one person didn’t like my religion.
And another person thought my beliefs were a little misguided.
And yet another person told me I was wrong for thinking the way I do.
And finally somebody called me a name and was rude to me.
I would seriously question if what I was doinng, thinking, saying, and how I was living was accually the correct way.
In religion there is always a moral debate, but more accurately a debate between logic and faith.
How much logic should one use?
If people of different cultures in different ‘relatively’ peaceful cultures have a problem with my ‘faith’ because it breeds a turbulant culture and aids the problem by injecting a healthy dose of appathy to the fanatics who cause all the trouble,
I don’t know… all I’m saying is I’d be inclined to re-evaluate my faith… and if I found that it wasn’t a faith that could ever become peaceful among it’s followers because some of the teachings mislead so many into the belief that they can use God as an excuse… I’d seriously think about figuring out how to address those fanatical trouble makers and deal with them… so that the rest of the world wouldn’t be so freakin’ terrified of me or my beliefs.
But it’s always harder to accuse someone of not being faithful when they show their over zealous streak. How can I tell somone in my OWN religion that they have it all wrong? When they are sure their faith is iron clad… and that God has promised them paradise? My arguement would be in vein…
And so do I let the world fear me and my faith?
I think the answer to the question is we must all let go of fear, let anger be washed away by patience and tollerance, and more than this we must cleanse our spirits with love.
I hear too many judgemental comments, unwarrented accusations, and snide remarks and all because people are fearful, uneducated, and to unwilling to give up petty things and simply love one another.
But that’s must my opinion.
on 22 Sep 2006 at 6:18 am # Tristan Vick
Sorry about the double post, but the first one is a draft with way too many spelling errors.
Here’s the real one:
I don’t know about anyone else,
but if one person didn’t like my religion.
And another person thought my beliefs were a little misguided.
And yet another person told me I was wrong for thinking the way I do.
And finally somebody called me a name and was rude to me.
I would seriously question if what I was doing, thinking, saying, and how I was living was actually the correct way.
In religion there is always a moral debate, but more accurately a debate between logic and faith.
How much logic should one use?
If people of different cultures in different ‘relatively’ peaceful cultures have a problem with my ‘faith’ because it breeds a turbulent culture and aids the problem by injecting a healthy dose of apathy to the fanatics who cause all the trouble,
I don’t know… all I’m saying is I’d be inclined to re-evaluate my faith… and if I found that it wasn’t a faith that could ever become peaceful among it’s followers because some of the teachings mislead so many into the belief that they can use God as an excuse… I’d seriously think about figuring out how to address those fanatical trouble makers and deal with them… so that the rest of the world wouldn’t be so freakin’ terrified of me or my beliefs.
But it’s always harder to accuse someone of not being faithful when they show their over zealous streak. How can I tell someone in my OWN religion that they have it all wrong? When they are sure their faith is iron clad… and that God has promised them paradise? My argument would be in vein…
And so do I let the world fear me and my faith?
I think the answer to the question is we must all let go of fear, let anger be washed away by patience and tolerance, and more than this we must cleanse our spirits with love.
I hear too many judgmental comments, unwarranted accusations, and snide remarks and all because people are fearful, uneducated, and to unwilling to give up petty things and simply love one another.
But that’s just my opinion.
on 22 Sep 2006 at 8:51 am # Abed. Hamdan
Tristan Vick: I wish I could agree with you this time, but no I don’t. From my Islamic background, I could tell you and guarantee you that the Muslim beleif is something clear, and very clear. By clear I mean that every single rule in Islam is clear, and the reason(justification) behind it is clear and know to everybody, so it doesn’t take an expert to judge whether the action is right or wrong from the Islamic perspective, and the interpretations are so logical and rationale, since our religion is based on logic more than feelings.
That’s why it’s easy for us to determine that the terror actions are right or wrong, and we know by our “Islamic common sense” that this is not true.
But what I was trying to say is, such irresponsible speeches would be a mean of justification of some terror actions.
And I, as I told you before, totally beleive that these terror actions and the corresponding counter-actions have nothing to do with ANY RELIGION, it’s all political game, and religions are used as a cover.
that’s why im always with religions, and with beleivers, and trying to discriminate between religion and dirty politics, and we really have nothing to do with politics.
we’re all brothers, and we shouldn’t let anything come between us.
Thanks for your opinion, I got you point
on 01 Oct 2006 at 2:49 am # Tristan Vick
I agree with you that the dirty politics always made things worse.
I also agree about what you said that the ‘trouble makers’ use religion to hide behind. Which I think is cowardly.
Yet I have to disagree with one thing… I don’t think Islam -the Religion- is a singular and simple logic as you say it is. I mean, yes, on the surface it does seem more simple and straight forward than Christianity and such.
But where I think Islam gets complicated is when you try to distern the exact seperation of state power with God’s rules… because as I understand it there is little to no seperation between every single rule in Islam and the politics which Islam incorporates… and I think most political scientist may agree that this is the main source of turmoil which links ‘radical’ and ‘extremist’ groups to Islam.
I mean, I agree with you that they are misusing the religion, but also you have to ask how can they do it so easily? And without consequence? They don’t see the consequences, because the that’s where the religion gets complex. Islam allows for a certain extreme despotism in its ‘rules’ and ‘regulations’ but there is very little guiding the ‘individual’ interpritation of these systematic regulations as long as the believer swears Allah is God and that the Qur’an is the word of God. Basically there’s nothing in the Religion that can tell him he’s mis-interperating the context and doing wrong by using ‘terrorism’ as a political tool and Islam as a shield. Where is the dividing ‘distinquishing’ line?
And that’s why the wrest of the world, in my opinion, is stuck in a state of confusion about Islam and how it governs politics as a religious/political entity. Yet this is only my opinion from what I have come to understand from studying about various religions and what not. I am by no means a professional, just an educated fellow with an educated opinion. I’d be glad to explain details for anyone who want’s to know what I mean exactly.
on 02 Oct 2006 at 4:52 am # Abed. Hamdan
Tristan Vick:
I hope I got your idea well. If you mean that there are no strict rules to discriminate between what political actions are right or wrong in the perspective that they are rules of the religion ??
The answer is in the Qur’an. Killing innocent people is strictly forbidden in Qur’an. and in the Islam in general, there’s always someone who’s called “mofti”, a man who’s trusted and his knowledge is known to reach a high level, then the Islamic world should agree on him to be the one who state what’s right and what’s wrong in case there’s a disagreement. Nowadays, after separating the Islamic world into too many different countries, each governor (in order to protect himself) brought himself one “mofti” so he can get approval to his actions, and of course every Muslim know that this “mofti” is absolutely bullshit and will be punished at the judgement day (every Muslim is aware of this fact btw).
Now, the terror actions face a non-questionable disapporval across the Islamic world, even if Bin Ladin call himself a “mofti” or “shaikh” or whatever, everybody knows his actions are wrong, and he doesn’t need approval of anyone! Who knows real Islam, know that, for example, shooting innocent people in the super market is not jehad and is not justified, even if he who did this justifies his actions, his justifications are absurd and well know to be wrong. Even if some people got emotional about these actions BECAUSE of the unjustice they see when the west deal with our causes in Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon, ..etc.
“Why they do it easily ?? and without punishment ?”
Who can punish them ?? and how ?? If they got caught in any Islamic country, they will be punished, but you are talking about our countries who are governed by (you know who) and who suffers from wars here and there. Our economy is not stable, our countries are still classified as developing countries, and after all these wars, they will be developing forever.
They see the consequences, but they find easy ways to do it. You know the situation in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and how easy it was to build an army. Rules of Islam allows to fight when you are attacked, the Qur’an “Don’t fight them unless they fight you” , and in another verse “and if they want peace give them peace” .
If you refere to the verse “Kill them wherever you find them”, so you missed the context of this verse , “Kill them wherever you find them” in case your country is occupied by them, so then you have to kill them wherever u find them inside your country.(it’s not my personal interpretation, but If you want I can bring you the full verse and you can read it and interpret it, and you will see it’s straightforward and has no double meanings at all.)
So now we can discriminate between what’s terror and what’s not! killing foreign people in Saudi Arabia is terror, because foreign people in Saudi Arabia are not occupying the country, but fighting the Israeli army who were to occupy Lebanon and commit Massacre is difinetly are true Jehad and not terror at all.
Again, those groups are completely political groups, and use religion as a cover, and the reason for this is: (1) It’s easy to get compassion if you use religion as a cover (2)you can easily recruit non-educated people becasue it’s easy to convince them.
They are utilizing the anger across the Islamic world, the anger due to the war in Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon, and of course the statements of Pope, Bush, and whatever anti-Islam action. It’s easy to utilize the emotions of poor angry non-educatd people.